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Showing posts with label Peak Flow. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Peak Flow. Show all posts

Tuesday, May 13, 2014

Tuesday Tip of the Week–Axis Zooming for True Peak Discharge

Written by Christopher Goodell, P.E., D.WRE  |  WEST Consultants

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Another simple, yet very convenient tool not found discussed in the manuals is the ability to zoom in on one of the axes of a graphical plot.  This is especially useful when trying to determine if you’ve captured the true peak discharge in a steeply rising hydrograph.  Take the following example: an unsteady flow dam breach output flow hydrograph.

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Here we have a steeply rising flow hydrograph from a breach at the inline structure that appears to have a peak discharge of about 35,000 cfs.  To visually inspect whether or not this hydrograph captures the true peak, we can zoom in on the x axis by clicking and dragging a “bar” on the axis itself.  Simply place your cursor just below the x axis line, on the axis labels (in this plot, the time, in hours), then click and drag a red bar bracketing the portion of the hydrograph you wish to zoom in to.

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Once you release the mouse button, the plot zooms in only on the x axis, in effect “spreading” out the hydrograph so that the peak is more apparent.  Notice that the full range of discharges still appear in the plot, we’ve simply truncated the time window to a more visually convenient range. 

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Now notice we can see that because the hydrograph output interval is set too coarse (in this case every 10 minutes), we miss out on the true peak of the discharge hydrograph.  It happens somewhere between 1950 hours and 2000 hours.  By rerunning the model with a smaller hydrograph output interval, we can capture a better representation of the true peak discharge.  In the next figure, the discharge hydrograph is shown for the same location with a 2 minute hydrograph output interval.

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After zooming in again on the x axis, we can see that we have a much better representation of the true peak of the discharge hydrograph, which is closer to 42,000 cfs, versus the 35,000 cfs shown in the first simulation:

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The axis zooming feature works on any plot (input or output) and you can zoom on either the x or y axis.  So next time you’re evaluating hydrographs, or simply wish to have a better view of a curve in any of the plots, give the axis zooming feature a try.

Thursday, August 15, 2013

Careful with Flow Inconsistency on the Max WS Profile

Written by Chris Goodell | WEST Consultants
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I’m a big proponent of checking flow consistency in your results.  Anyone who has taken a RAS class from me has heard me go on about Standard Table 2 and the benefits of maintaining a consistent distribution of flow not only between sub sections (left overbank, main channel, right overbank) in a cross section, but from cross section to cross section.  Any significant change in flow, or flow distribution should be questioned and explained.  Generally there is a problem with ineffective flow definitions, Manning’s n values, bank station placement, or your model is simply unstable (for an unsteady flow model). 
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After running an unsteady flow model, and you open up the profile output table (also called summary output table), the first profile that pops up is the Max WS profile.  Now, you have to be careful when checking flow distribution with the Max WS profile.  Although it shows up in the plot and tables along with all of the other profiles, the Max WS profile is not a real profile.  It never happened.  It is actually a compilation of all of the highest water surface elevations that happened during the simulation for each cross section-regardless of time.  A “Greatest Hits” of water surface elevations, if you will.  This is exactly what you would plot when producing a maximum inundation map. 
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For many models, the Max WS profile will do just fine in identifying flow distribution problems with an important exception – reaches that have significant lateral inflows whose peak flows do not line up temporally with the main channel peak flow.  If that lateral inflow sets up a backwater in the main channel, prior to the arrival of the flood in the main channel, it could actually produce a higher peak water surface elevation than the elevation that corresponds to the peak of the main channel flood. 
Here’s an example from a question I recently got from a former attendee of one of my RAS courses.  Warning, this gets a bit detailed and specific-make sure you’re wide awake before reading on… 
Question:  “I’m currently working on an unsteady model where I have my initial flow hydrograph and then two lateral inflow hydrograph’s further downstream.  My question is that at my first lateral inflow hydrograph location the next couple of cross-sections upstream of the inflow point have greatly reduced peak flows.  For instance, the peak flow of the hydrograph entering the upstream end of the reach is around 646 cfs and at the cross-sections just upstream of the lateral inflow that number is reduced down to around 387 cfs.  There is not a drastic change in cross-section shape or stream slope in the area of the lateral inflow.  Have you run across this type of thing before?  Is this realistic or is something in the model not quite right?  Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.”
Response:  What looks like an inconsistency, really is not.  In fact your results look great.  When checking flow consistency, be careful doing this with the MaxWS profile in the summary output table.  This is where you saw the drop from 646.61 cfs to 387.53 cfs from RS 3936.90 to RS 3899.86.  The problem with checking flow consistency on the MaxWS profile is that the maximum water surface does not necessarily correspond to the maximum flow, especially if you are in a backwater area like below.  This backwater is set up by the lateral inflow entered just downstream at RS 3726.34 and happens prior to the arrival of the peak flow in the main channel.  A very common occurrence when modeling a flood in large systems with multiple tributaries.  clip_image001 The peak of the lateral inflow at 3726 happens at 1250 hrs on the 13th.  This sets up a backwater that produces the max ws elevation of 976.52 ft for RS 3899.86.  However, the flow at RS 3899.86 at this moment is only 389.13 cfs.  The peak flow in the main channel has not arrived yet.  clip_image002 The peak flow in the main channel at RS 3899.86 happens after the lateral inflow peak by about 1 hour and 10 minutes.  At 1400 hrs, the backwater effect from the lateral inflow is almost completely gone at RS 3899.86 and the peak flow is 647.59 cfs with a corresponding ws elevation of 976.25 ft.  clip_image003 clip_image004 As a result, what you see in the max ws profile is not the max flow at RS 3899.86, but the flow that is happening during the max ws elevation.  You can see all of this by checking around the stage and flow hydrographs. If you see inconsistencies like this for the max ws profile, you can verify your results are still good by scanning through each individual real profile in the summary output table (cumbersome), or go to the dss file and open up the max flow profile like so: clip_image006 This gives you a plot like this: clip_image008 Notice that the max flow at 3899.86 is indeed in the 650-ish range, which is where it should be.  The big changes in max flow are where you have your lateral inflow hydrographs. 













Thursday, February 23, 2012

How to get a table of Peak Flows and Peak Stages for Unsteady Simulations

Written by Chris Goodell, P.E., D. WRE | WEST Consultants
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This is a common question.  It’s often desirable to have a table of timing for peak stages and flows for dam breach models.  This allows you to track the arrival of the flood wave at all locations downstream of the dam.  However, the typical output plots in HEC-RAS are not very helpful in providing this information.  You could look at each cross section’s stage and flow hydrograph, and pick off the time for the peaks, but this can be very tedious and time-consuming.  There is a much faster way to get this information using the DSS Viewer in HEC-RAS.

Go to the DSS viewer on the main RAS window.
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Once there, filter the records as follows by clicking in the blank cell at the top of each column and selecting what you want to see from the dropdown box:

Part A: Select the Reach you want to look at
Part B: Leave Blank
Part C: Select LOCATION-TIME
Part D: Leave Blank
Part E: Select MAX STAGE or MAX FLOW
Part F: Select the Plan you want to view.

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Once you have the record you’re interested in, double click it in the filter table so that it is brought down to the list box at the bottom. Then highlight the record in the list box and click “Plot/Tabulate Selected Pathname(s). You should see a graph that plots out the Simulation Time for Max Flow or Stage for every cross section in the selected reach.

For peak stage…
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For peak flow…
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Within the DSS Plot window, select the “Table” tab to see tabular output.
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